The Truth Needs To Be Told
The vast majority of mothers who go to abortion clinics are never told the truth about the persons in their wombs
Rockford IL April 28 2010 - For years sidewalk counselors at the Rockford abortion mill have spoken with mothers who have told us that when they were in the Northern Illinois Women's Center, they were not told about the development of the children in their wombs. Some of the mothers even had ultra-sounds done and were never shown the babies alive within them.
80% or more of mothers choose life if they see an ultrasound
We know why abortion mills try to hide the results of an ultra-sound from a mother. Because they know:
1. An ultra-sound shows and proves the growing person within the mother is her child.
2. Studies show even mothers who are fully convinced they want an abortion choose life after they see the babies living in their wombs.
3. Abortion is about lies. The lie is that a person in the womb is not a person. An ultra-sound rips the mask off this lie.
One young mother recently told a sidewalk counselor that after she had an ultra-sound and asked to see it and was refused, she used Google images on her Internet capable cell phone to see what the ultra-sound of her baby would look like. When she saw the beautiful child in the womb, she came immediately out to the pro-life sidewalk counselors for help.
"Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive" Post-abortive mother
Over the years pro-lifers have heard the horror stories of what it's like inside of the Rockford abortion mill. We have spoken with mothers who have chosen life because they said:
1. When they were waiting inside the clinic, everyone seemed to be crying.
2. The staff seemed so cold as if they were blaming me for being there.
3. It was the most depressing place I have ever been.
4. I was going in for an appointment, and they wouldn't let me take my born child inside. Why are they afraid to let born children inside?
5. I could just feel something was wrong in there.
“Whoever is careless with the truth cannot be trusted with important matters." Albert Einstein
Please follow this link http://www.rockfordprolife.com/index.html to learn more about how the full truth is not being offered to mothers who enter the Rockford IL abortion mill.
We are in the process of and have already collected numerous stories of mothers who have received less than the full story about abortion, life, and the development of a child in the womb in Rockford's abortion mill.
If you have a story to share with us or know someone who does, please contact us at rockfordvictimassistance@gmail.com
All information will remain confidential, but it will be a tremendous help in our efforts to ensure no mother has an abortion without knowing the full truth of what will happen. May God bless you

Again you've nailed this
Wed, 04/28/2010 - 5:57pm — Maggie (not verified)Again you've nailed this Rockford abortion mill for what it is. A place of sorrow, death, lies, and death.
Thank you for this and all your stories. I will be passing it on.
No one should have to be
Wed, 04/28/2010 - 6:27pm — Kevin (not verified)No one should have to be alone. Every person should know those in the pro-life movement love you no matter what has happned. God loves and forgives. Turn to Him and He will bring healing to your life. Professional help is also avaliable at the places listed below: Rockford area Pregnancy Care Center 611 West State Street Rockford, IL 815.997.1200 Website: www.postabortionsyndrome.org This site gives a list of symptoms of Post Abortion Syndrome and will help you better understand what someone who has an abortion may have to live with. Other Agencies National Life Center 800.848.5683 Birthright 800.550.4900 Care Net 800.395.4357 Catholic Charities Maternity Hotline 800.227.3002 Nurturing Network 800.866.4666
I don't know how to say this.
Wed, 04/28/2010 - 8:37pm — Hoping to be Born Again (not verified)I don't know how to say this. The first thing is thank you so much to Lisa for sharing her story, I followed the link and read it. Lisa you will never know how much you have done for me. I have some hope now after reading how you came through things. I was in that place also. It was Dr. Ragsdale. His eyes are as cold as ice. I first started looking to the nurse for some sign that I didn't have to do it but that sign never came. I know it's my fault I can't blame them. BUT WHY, WHY, WHY DID THEY HAVE TO BE THERE AND KILL MY BABY. I WOULD HAVE NEVER, NEVER DONE IT IF THAT PLACE WASN'T THERE. I do believe God forgives and reading about a woman like Lisa is my hope. Thank you Lisa.
Quote from Rockford pro-life
Wed, 04/28/2010 - 9:05pm — Bob (not verified)Quote from Rockford pro-life story, "The counseling I received at the Northern Illinois Women’s Center consisted of telling me my baby was just a blob of tissue that looked nothing like a baby." Of course when your going to murder someone elses baby your going to lie to her.
Have you ever heard or read
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 8:01am — Rachel (not verified)Have you ever heard or read what Norma McCorvey has to say about the abortion industry? She is "Roe" from Roe Vs. Wade. She now tells how when she was young these pro-abortion lawyers got hold of her told her lies, got her to lie and used her to get abortion legalized. For some years after she worked in the abortion industry and now she explains all they did was lie to the mothers. They never told the truth about the baby in the womb. They pushed abortion as a way to make money but most of all she talks about how the abortionists and nurses always hid the trurh from the moms. She got so sick and depressed with all of it she alomst gave up on her own life. Thank God a good Christian spoke with her and she came to Christ. Now she has found the joy and peace that only Jesus Christ can give. But the point is of course abortion is based on lies and hiding the truth that a baby in the womb is a person.
If you read this below you
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 8:23am — Beth from Roscoe (not verified)If you read this below you can understand some of the sick self-justification that takes place in the minds of those who kill babies and make money off of their dead bodies at the Rockford abortion clinic. They at first viciously attack God........ Then they pretend what they do is OK with God....... What is really happening is deep inside they know that hell is the only place sutiable for those who murder babies for money like they do......but they don't want to admit they have sold thier immortal soul for money. So on one hand they pretend God is not real and on the other hand they desparetly try and say God doesn't mind that they murder His children. (in the interview the abortionist even admits he is murdering a baby) Below statement from Troy Newman: "It is an interesting thing that so many abortionists try to justify their actions in religious terms," said Newman. "Somehow they need to think God approves of them and what they are doing. Deluding themselves is probably the only way they are able to sleep at night. Deep down in their hearts, unless they are completely reprobate, they have to know that what they are doing is wrong. Boyd admits as much." Abortionist Boyd raised eyebrows recently when he stated during an interview that he understands that he is killing. "Am I killing? Yes, I am. I know that." He says he prays for his abortion victims. "I'll ask that the spirit of this pregnancy returns to God with love and with understanding." "I wish Boyd had actually studied the Bible a little closer when he was a Baptist, because clearly God says that the shed blood of the innocent cries out to God for vengeance that belongs to God alone. In fact, according to Proverbs chapter six, the hands that shed innocent blood are among six things that God says He hates. The Bible also teaches that we should have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness, but should rather expose them. I can't think of anything that qualifies better as an 'unfruitful work of darkness' than taking the life of an innocent baby in the womb," said Newman. "Boyd may find himself in for a rude awakening when he finally faces his Maker and is required to give an account for his life."
Since Jesus Christ is Himself
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 9:56am — Megan (not verified)Since Jesus Christ is Himself the TRUTH and the LIFE He is our answer to the lies and killing of NIWC AKA the Northern Illinois Wicked Center. Please pray for life
In all the years that I have
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 12:26pm — MaryAnonymous (not verified)In all the years that I have been in the prolife movement, I think that the most powerful statement that I have ever heard....from a post abortive woman...was this:
I was lying on the table and the abortionist came into the room to start the "procedure" as they call it. At one point the nurse looked at the
"doctor" and asked him if something was wrong. His reply was "it's trying to get away".
Of course the "it" was the baby and she was trapped in the womb and literally trying to avoid the suction machine. The very image has stayed in my mind all these years. I'm thankful to report that the mom is now prolife and she is a former director of a pregnancy center. She has written her testimony and included this in her story. I am sure that some lives were saved because of this powerful testimony.
Are you joking. Of course the
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 1:02pm — Susie Morgan (not verified)Are you joking. Of course the abortion mill will tell a woman as little as they can get away with. Does anyone really think they are going to tell them the truth? That they are going to murder a baby. Of course they say as little as possible. An ultra-sound blows their lies away that's way they hate to show it.
This is of interest to one
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 2:41pm — Sad In Rockford (not verified)This is of interest to one and all here @ prolifecorner.com: It seems like almost every single day the killing center(aka NIWC 1400 Broadway)is open for business, it seems like we hear screaming, shouting and other loud noises and yes, we mean LOUD noises. Noises sufficently loud enough that they're heard two plus blocks down and away and above the din of various other noises from the various businesses, music and goings-on around us. The sounds we, neighbors and us, hear are coming directly from the area right around 1400 Broadway. We don't know if we're hearing arguments, debates or someone being forced into NIWC against their will and we're reluctnat to call the police concerning these loud sounds because almost everyone in Rockford knows exactly how authorities have been known and recorded to respond to NIWC-related concerns. Our erstwhile "alderwoman" shoots nasty looks at literally anyone she suspects of not being on her side as she hurriedly drives off whenever any of her constituents has a question or legitimate complaint to share with her. Her marijuana soaked go-along boyfiriend, James, prowls around the neighborhood, literally pal-ing it up with Wayne Webster and friends and slinks furtively away when even remotely approached. Even the genuinely neighborly approach is an utter failure with these folks. I do want to ask exactly what are my neighbors and I hearing whenever NIWC is open? I want to stress that these LOUD sounds are heard ONLY on the days that this killing mill is open and no other time. From a couple blocks down and away it's difficult to describe what we're hearing but I guess the best words to describe what we hear are quick, LOUD and ANGRY. Yes, whatever it is sounds very nasty; very hostile and almost animal-like, savage. And I don't want to hear some namby-pamby excuse about how it's Wayne Webster or Karen Elyea's or anyone else's "right" to subject their business and resdiential neighbors to whatever it is we're hearing. Again, these noises are only heard ON THE DAYS THE ABORTION MILL IS OPEN AND NO OTHER! On rockkfordprolife.com, I read with gut-wrenching sadness about the teenage mom being driven into the mill parking lot crying hysterically and Wayne or another clinic staffer blared loud music or noise from one of the loudspeakers outside. Someone posted something about during WWII, the Nazis and townspeople singing louder in church or playing orchestra music louder to drown out the sounds coming from killing camps such as Auschwitz, Ravensbruck and other death camps; to drown out the sounds of men, women and children being led to what can only be described as unimaginably horrible deaths...just like the eight babies killed the last day NIWC was open for business. I want so much to move away from this area as soon as reasonably possible. I NEVER realized just how horrible living so close to NIWC would actaully be. The sounds, loudpseakers, cameras, weird host of NIWC "friends" and associates and sympathizers parading around the property and area on a regular basis. The free-floating garbage, the badly half-mowed lawn. The courageous presence of various stripes of Christians praying on the days NIWC is open and the abuses I've witnessed these valiant warriors take: Everything from being honked at and then being given middle finger salutes to having thrash thrown at them from passing vehicles to being spit on, spit near, yelled at, threatened. Threatened by pro-abort sympathizers, clinic staff and Wayne Webster sympathizers. Public clowns such as the individual who dresses up as some sick rendition of Sesame Street's Cookie Monster and passes out condoms to passers-by. Then there's the couple who publicly carry signs that say "Condoms For Christ" and have been known to heckle young Christians that've come to pray on the sidewalk outside NIWC property. There are others, yes, but they and chosen public behaviors are literally too offensive and disgusting and sometimes illegal to get into here on prolifecorner.com Folks, does anyone have any idea what we're hearing and seeing on the days this house of horrors is open? Again, I'm personally VERY reluctant to go to the authorities at this point because I'm not sure doing so will net ANY positive results and MIGHT make things worse for fellow Christians and others who are striving to put a stop to the horrors of 1400 Broadway. I don't want to be remotely accused of making the authorities' jobs any harder or nastier than what they already are and I don't want to be accused however falsely or unjustly of "starting something", but again, we all know how cops and local authorities feel about this whole abortion, pro-life debate and I'm really trying NOT to let my own personal feelings and beliefs as an abortion/rape survivor color things. I know that I ache for the crying young girl written about. How can her mother and grandmother return home later for dinner and the next day and for the rest of their lives, knowing that they were in all likelihood forcing a scared young girl to abort her unborn child probably against her will?? How will these two loved and trusted family members look at themselves in the mirror and then lay their heads down upon their pillows and sleep restfully at night knowing what they did; that their demands trumped the wants and desires for life and love from a frightened young girl who obviously made some bad decisions...none so bad that her unborn baby deserved to die?? Scared crying hysterically young girl, I wish I could hug and comfort you. Many years ago I was you. I may not know your exact circumstances..but I know your feelings. And I wish so very badly that I could tell girls and women going into the killing center what's going to physically and emotionally and spirtually happen to them..and to their unborn babies. I wish I could physically carry you safely away and introduce you to genuinely pro-life folks in our Church and community who'd love to help you AND your pre-born baby. Like a wounded solider, I promise I'd carry BOTH of you safely AWAY from the killing center... Will this young woman's family gladly and willingly pay for the intense therapy this scared young woman will no doubt eventually need, for forcing her to abort against her will? Will they willingly and silently endure whatever personal crises she'll go through as the direct result of this awful act? I just know I feel sad and angry in a very helpless yet furious way after reading about this young girl. Yes, sixteen is far too young, immature and financially stable an age to raise a child, even WITH family and/or outside help, but this is EXACTLY where the Church and genuine pro-life community has an obligation to step in and either help her parent her baby or help her place her child in a secure, loving adoptive family. It's NOT "giving up a baby" but rather it IS giving a very young, immature and inexperinced parent's child opportunities for a secure, loving life. Difficult? Unimaginbaly so. Heroic? Absolutely. Honorable and something that mom AND baby can LIVE with? ABSOLUTELY! I digress a little.. What are we hearing on the days the killing center is open and what legally can we do about it? It IS becoming a nuisance. Even to our neighbors that don't speak or understand English know that something is afoul and a couple have as best they can attempted to articulate their concern to me. I feel bad because I don't know what to do and/or say except to say that what's going on is bad or evil and that we'll try to figure out what to do. Immigrant status aside, some of our Latin neighbors that don't speak English definitely KNOW that "something" BAD is going on around them and I feel angry that I can't better articulate and/or do something-anything-about either the noises we're hearing or what's going on when NIWC is open. I'm shaking my head as I type this because I just don't know what to do and praying right now seems to literally batter the spiritual wind out of me, when I see and have little support for the ways I feel, see and believe... Lovingly and respectfully, I'm just Sad In Rockford
I've heard the abortion mill
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 2:42pm — Jim from the mill (not verified)I've heard the abortion mill security guard and dog walker (does the abortionists brign dogs with him?) say some pretty sick things about what he believes a child in the womb is. The thing is any one who hears him knows he's lying not only to the pro-lifers he's talking to but to himself. It was sad but also funny to hear him try and deny the life of a person in the womb then a pro-lifer showed him the big poster of a baby in in the womb he was holding. The mill guard or maintinance man whatever he is quickly changed the subject and went on to some other profanities. The truth looked him in the face and he cracked. I wonder what will happen when the truth is in his face for all eternity?
The a mill security guard is
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 4:41pm — AnonymousThe a mill security guard is usually but not always the clinic landlord, Wayne Webster and anyone and everyone in Rockford and the surrounding area and certainly in the neighborhood KNOWS the filth Wayne and his "friends" spout; be it standing on the ground or up on his tall ladder or safely inside the mill, behind locked doors and over loudspeakers outside. More than enough said I believe. The dog walker? It can be anyone from his long time companion, Sharon, to our erstwhile "alderman" Karen Elyea or her stoner boyfriend James or any number of their "friends" and I say this literally-it can be ANYONE. Usually, though, the dog walker is Wayne, his long-time companion Sharon or a friend/mill staffer. Reliable sources have shared with us Mr. Webster is a veteran. Even if this is true, such does NOT give Wayne any more "right(s)" to spout the filth he does than anyone else, honorably discharged veteran or not. If the mill has a maintinance man or not is anyone's guess. So many different folks parade in and out of the mill it's hard to say. Usually it's, again, Wayne Webster, his long-time companion or someone they know, but it's usually Wayne or Sharon that does(or doesn't)maintain the 1400 Broadway property called NIWC. A neighbor pointed out how Wayne or someone left a red trash bag near a No PArking sign for a couple of days. This neighbor wanted to buzz the NIWC door to ask them-maintenance-to throw the bag away but he didn't know if he'd be ignored or be threatened via loudspeaker for going onto NIWC property. Yes, this IS how schizophrenic and greedy Mr. Webster and this mill's staff are: If you're there to give them money in advance to kill preborn babies, you're buzzed in right away, but if you're a neighborhood property owner or simply a concerned citizen inquiring about a red BIOHAZARD garbage bag that's been left outside for at least two plus days, you are EXTREMELY RELUCTANT to approach the possible owner of said trash bag because it's common knowledge in a three county wide area the landlord and mill staffs' vile words, conduct and actions. Again, MOST of these clinic staff and Wayne Webster's words are internet searchable and a matter of public and legal record. I don't say this disrespectfully, no, but does it really matter who "maintains" this antique eyesore of a property called Northern Illinois Womens Clinic? Trust me when I say the mill must have an invisible revolving door because one day or time it's Wayne. Another it's his long-time companion. Another it's someone else, but usually it's the incredibly narcistic paranoid foul-mouthed Wayne Webster himself. Back to the red trash bag left near a No Parking sign for around two and a half days: Red trash bags, usually if they're located @ a medical facility, are colored as such because they're used for disposal of medical waste. I'll leave the description of such to the readers' imaginations and knowledge of such. Because I know what such bags are used for, I was taken aback that such a bag was left outside for as long as it was. I believe the red trash bag of garbage(??) was left outside by the sign on purpose; so Wayne and "friends" could see the reactions of those passing by it. We were just three of at least half a dozen folks passing by, by vehicle and on foot, that saw and wondered about the biohazard red trash bag. Wayne or another mill staffer probably was called and told to pick it up and dispose of it properly or face a probable fine for improper disposal of waste. As a rape survivor that was bullied, threatened and abandoned into abortion, I can say that yes, I had some wild, gross and horrific images briefly flash through my mind when I saw this red trash bag sitting outside for almost three days and yes, I had to physically steel myself against checking out the bag and its contents myself. I believe as a survivor that this was/is precisely the reaction that Wayne and friends want[ed]. I say this because for basic everyday business and/or residental clean-up, one uses the classic 30-50 gallon black or brown plastic trash bags or for yard waste, long paper bags, NOT bright red BIOHAZARD trash bags, so YES, I believe that was EXACTLY the reaction that Mr. Webster was looking for. I challenge someone to tell me that this doesn't give a little glimpse into the sick thinking minds of those that own and/or work @ 1400 Broadway!?! We're seriously thinking about contacting a branch of the AMA in Chicago or [name of another metropolitan city]and inquiring if the signs and things in the windows of NIWC are in legal conflict with any of the doctors that work @ 1400 Broadway. It's my understanding that REAL MD's are held to incredibly STRICT leagl and moral standards and usually, such things that're displayed on a regular basis @ 1400 Broadway are considered a conflict of interest, moral terpitude and a clear violation of an MD's Hippocratic Oath; to mention NOTHING of what such can potentially do to a REAL doctor's professional reputation. Such vile displays @ NIWC speak volumes about the "doctors" that choose to work there and I can't imagine much more being so damaging to a reputable medical doctor's reputation than having one's name, face and professional reputation to be tied to such an Exorcist-like work envoronment than what's on display for literally the whole world to see at 1400 Broadway, Rockford, Illinois, USA. Anyone that hasn't seen these vile pictures and has yet to view the video last winter of Keith Sterkeson going on a twenty-plus minute profanity strewn diatribe against two peaceful, law respecting men praying outside the mill should watch it, although do so either with earphones and/or have no children present while viewing it, because the video has some of the most EXTREME actions and language imaginable. The lowest point is Keith's near CONSTANT use of the racist "n" word and literally EVERY OTHER word contains the "f" word or some variation of it. That, and Keith visibly threatens the man with the camera with the pitbull dog he has with him seen in the video. Keith Sterkeson's words and actions are all the more shocking because they are totally uncut or fabricated and are 100% REAL. It's much to stomach but just to give anyone not in the know or who really doesn't believe that things @ 1400 Broadway are this vile need and should view this video and others like it. Keith Sterkeson's words and actions in this video make ANYTHING that ANY pro-life person has been accused of, whether real or trumped-up, look absolutely foolish by comparison. Anti-choice or anti-abortion rhetoric or propaganda someone might say? Yah. That, my friends, is called INTENTIONAL IGNORANCE AFTER THE FACT; DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE and outright DELIBERATE STUPID DENIAL OF OBJECTIVE FACTS and the things just described are EXACTLY what 1400 Broadway and the abortion industry rely on to rake in more and more and MORE money. Lots of money. BIG money. HUGE money. As in " JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL AND SEE PRECISELY WHERE IT LEADS AND IT LEADS(gasp!)BUT STRAIGHT TO THE GRAVE!!! Seriously, folks, it doesn't matter one bit, whit, iota or "whatever" who maintains this House Of 50,000 (and counting)Corpses, it really doesn't. All that matters is as long as this mill and others like it are ALLOWED to stay open and conduct its blood money for blood profit business, it and Rockford, by turns and degrees, will be a blight and shame to ALL OF US and whether one CHOOSES to believe or not, I'll end this post by say God have mercy on our intentionally wayward excuse-making, inactive fractious sinners because VERY SOON ALL OF US WILL REAP THE WHIRLWIND OF OUR INTENTIONAL EXCUSES AND INDIFFERENCE AND WE CAN'T SAY WE WEREN'T WARNED OR GIVEN TIME TO ACT, REPENT AND FIGHT!
To see video refered to above, click here: http://www.prolifecorner.com/node/61
I was told that I could NOT
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 3:12pm — Another post abortive mother (not verified)I was told that I could NOT see the sonogram picture and when I attempted to look, with a few quick keystrokes and a rude jerk of the monitor, the nurse showed me something that looked like a little round ball and said all they were allowed to see or show was that because that's all the "products of conception" were: just a ball of cells, something too small and unformed to resemble anything like a baby. It was months later when I learned the truth. And that truth looked NOTHING like the little ball I saw on the computer screen. We were told we could look @ those plastic pregnancy and prenantal models but not to look too long because we were holding up the line and that it wasn't fair to the other girls and women. One nurse even raised her voice and almost yelled at me because I wasn't taking my clothes off and putting on the hospital gown they gave me fast enough. I felt like a horrible scared stupid little kid or a puppy that just got smacked with a rolled up paper. I recall very little talking and the tension and fright in that pre-abortion waiting area was palpable. All but one or two girls or women hung their heads down and many hid their faces with their hair. When I tried to voice my fear to a "nurse" she literally ignored me and a girl behind me actually said in a very nasty voice "Geez lighten up. It's not like you broke your arm or something. It's not like you're having major surgery or something." Apparently these words were spoken by an emotionally hardened young woman who'd had at least one abortion. We were told that we couldn't have a support person in the room with us during the abortion because allegedly doing so "wouldn't be fair to others". Say WHAT?? The nurse present for the abortion procedure said she was "there" so there weren't any accusations of impropriety or sexual harassment or assault, not because she was needed to hold hands or be "there" for the girls and women. I recall the doctor introduced himself and then proceeded to, with the nurse, push me back and down onto the exam/abortion table. I felt like everything was happening outside myself, my body. Except that it was indescribably physically painful. Shockingly painful. I cannot describe what I heard but I hear these sounds almost every day and have for many years now. I was told that at "x" weeks that it's just a ball of cells, a clump. Nothing that feels pain or anything. Out of respect for fellow post-abortive mothers, survivors and others here at prolifecorner.com, I simply cannot and will not describe what I heard and saw during and afterward except to say if ANYONE believes that it's just a clump of cells, a ball of nothing resembling a fetus or baby or anything, they should Google or Bing REAL ultrasound photos of REAL unborn/preborn babies or even search pics of plastic prenatal models, like the ones used in Health classes or at pregnancy centers or obstetrics offices. I could keep going about my abortion experince but I believe it pretty much is the same as most post-abortive womens'. "x" years later and I think it's time I find someone in our Church to talk in-depth to about my abortion experience. Money has been tight for a while now and for the last couple years, the lack of it makes counseling across town out of the question. I pray that God forgives me because I KNOW I'm a rebellious, foul-mouthed sinner and I'm sure on some level God knows just how sorry and awful I genuinely feel...
God bless you sad in Rockford
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 6:08pm — Kelsey (not verified)God bless you sad in Rockford for sharing this story.
You are a true inspiration.
Hi Sad in Rockford, That is
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 6:22pm — Richard (not verified)Hi Sad in Rockford, That is one of the best written articles about the evil Rockford abortion mill I have ever read. Please keep up your good work and reporting. May the peace of Christ be with you, Rich
Like my beloved Saint Joan of
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 7:49pm — Sad In Rockford (not verified)Like my beloved Saint Joan of Arc and countless other witnesses of our Faith, I'm just the messenger and as long as I have some-any-modicum of intelligence and reason in my brain and ability in my body, I promise I WILL report, fight if need be and share what I both see, know and suspect. I may not always do so on the computer. I may go to the proper authorities-law enforcement and/or secular. I promise I WILL STAND MY GROUND-even if/when I'm frightened and hearing my heart pounding in my ears. This city, state, country and Nation is in the social, moral, economic and spiritual shambles it is because of our INTENTIONAL, as in DELIBERATE apathy, excuse-making, cruel indifference, moral relativism combined with the entitlement mentality from hell and I for one REFUSE to ALLOW such things to go unnoticed and when I can help it, unreported. When did tiny, innocent, voiceless and completely helpless and defenseless preborn babies become the enemy..and "why" did neither our parents and/or society share the Church's universal pro-life ethic with us?? Why did it take "x" years AFTER my sexual assault and me and my unborn baby being verbally and emotionally bullied, threatened and abandoned into abortion?? Like another post abortive mother that posted here on prolifecorner.com, I too knew what I was doing was wrong but I really, truly and genuinely felt like I had no other choice-like I WASN'T given or "allowed" another or ANY other choice BUT ABORTION. Or to quote my abuser QUOTE "That's NOT *my* problem NOW and I DON'T give a [explitive] WHAT YOU(meaning me)DO. JUST GET RID OF IT AND DON'T EVEN TRY TO RETALIATE AGAINST ME, etc." When faced with such behavior and threats, exactly what is a scared young girl or woman "supposed" to do?? Well, what she's "supposed" to do and what typically happens in REAL LIFE are vastly, grossly and sadly TWO DIFFERENT REALITIES! Thank you for blessing me with the peace that only our Lord can give. I ask and pray more for His protection as my lot is a very spiritually and emotionally dangerous one. I don't fear for my safety very much. I know either way I'm protected and I NEVER act illegally or rashly and NEVER would unless my life was in clear and present danger. This is MY town and MY neighborhood. MY taxes, unfortunately and/or however offensive and disgusting it is, feed, support and subsidize the bulk of this neighborhood and, sadly, this city. WHY should *I* fear driving and/or walking through MY neighborhood and MY city, wherever I need or desire to go, and for "whatever" reason(s)?!? Again, this is every bit my and our neighborhood as it is our death for profit neighbors just a couple blocks up and away from us. When did their "right" to make huge sums of blood money off girls and women in what are usually desparate and/or secretive circumstances trump our right to voice our fears, concerns and desires for safety, decency and a better neighborhood and city?? When did the "right" of out-of-towners seeking no-questions-asked HUGE SUMS of money abortions trump OUR rights NOT to be FORCED to deal with the socio-economic fallout from such ignorance, secrecy, greed and open public vile hatred for the things that the majority of society and individuals hold as the norm if not sacred?? Where are *OUR* rights in this regard?!? Perhaps we DESERVE to evil to TRIUMPH because I see very few folks indeed willing to take a moral let alone physical stand AGAINST the onslaught and tide of greed, filth and moral relativism spewing like so much raw sewage from places like NIWC 1400 Broadway. Again, folks, WHERE are OUR rights, because it's becoming frightfully apparent that the ONLY rights that we have seem to be the ones we're willing to FIGHT for. Again, as long as I have the use of whatever God put in my skull and I have use of my body, I promise I WILL CONTINUE REPORTING what I/we see, know and/or suspect about the activities in/around Rockford's House of 50,000(and counting)Corpses. Calling this place by its business name is almost too much; too respectful. Likewise calling it a clinic or (gag) a womens' healthcare facility. Even words like mill or abortuary are almost too good to describe 1400 Broadway. Ditto for a certain business and owner who openly supports this mill, its bloody work and end results, and its filth-spewing, hiding behind their "It's our right!" rhetoric owner, companion, friends and sympathizers. We're almost certain that Wayne and his companion and their coworkers are outcasts in certain family and social circles-less beacuse of their chosen work and more to do with their hateful open, shameless public behavior. What a shame. At least we don't "have to" go to our jobs covering our faces in embarassment or shame and hiding our very identities or drive into our work parking lot like an angry teenager or the proverbial "bat out of hell". We've witnessed Wayne and other mill staffers doing just this and TWICE with Rockford Police nearby(!!) Did the police do anything? Not that we could visibly see, disgustingly, NO, NOT ONCE! Folks, we can only do so much individually, but together, we are truly a force to be be leagally, morally and spiritually reckoned with. About the ONLY thing these pro death for more, more and MORE blood money folks seem to understand ISN'T the fear of the possible loss of their medical licensing or the loss of their freedom or liberty, but rather the loss of HUGE sums of their [blood]money profits. If we can't shut these death for blood money profiteers down, we can at least make doing business around here and the country very legally uncomfortable for them to the point that they'll want to WILLINGLY give such up and move on with their lives and a safer, healtheir and hopefully more morally acceptable vocation/career/job! Again, we'd genuinely like to speak to-dialogue respectfully-with our [erstwhile] "alderman", but as you probably already know, Ms. Elyea has branded one and ALL that are NOT in her pro-abortion clique as "terrorists" as, to quote Karen herself, she "doesn't talk to terrorists". So much for even the HOPE of respectful dialogue. Silly me for thinking and hoping to speak with the person who CLAIMS to represent the interests and concerns of HER constituents and district. And this woman is still in a position of influence, power and control WHY?!? We're personally NOT advocating that folks boycott or NOT patronize her business simply because we firmly believe that her words and actions speak for themselves and we believe that reasonably intelligent folks can make up their own minds as to whether or not they'll patronize(or continue doing so)her business based on readily available publicly known information about her, her views and background. Someone on another local pro-life website said something similar to "You can't hide these three things: Light, dark and the truth." Another said something similar to "When someone shows you who they really are, believe them." NOTHING I can say or think of trumps these words. They speak of and for themselves. Again, Rich, thank you personally for your kind words. Likewise remember mine. Respecfully, Sad In Rockford
The unspoken message of the
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 6:42pm — Heartland Church member (not verified)The unspoken message of the ultrasound is clear to all with an open heart and a brain: “I'm human—just like you.” It was the same message of Harriet Beecher Stowe whose novel “Uncle Tom's Cabin” made the horrors of slavery impossible to ignore. It was the message of Rosa Parks who awakened a slumbering country to the evils of racism by the simple act of sitting down. It is the message of the victims and the oppressed throughout our history: “"I'm human—just like you.” That moment when a woman sees an ultrasound she will know who is growing inside her. That of course is why the Rockford mill doesn't want mothers to see or know the reality that abortion is murder. I have great faith that science is on our side simply because truth is on our side. And the recent spate of ultrasound laws, I think, are a great thing. And I think before the country is willing to listen to a pro-lifer saying "don't" they might just listen to pro-lifers saying "look." Rockford needs an informed concent law.
Heartland Church Member: I
Thu, 04/29/2010 - 9:06pm — Sad In Rockford (not verified)Heartland Church Member: I too believe Illinois NEEDS informed consent laws. Girls, women, families and above ALL, the pre-born babies facing grisly drawing and quartering type deaths @ the hands of all too greedy abortionists definitely need and DESERVE a fighting chance @ life in the form of informed consent laws. We've created such a morally schizophrenic reality with our younger generations: Parents or legal guardians have to-MUST-fill out and keep on their and the school's files, permission AND release forms for their kid(s) to carry and/or posess, say, Tylenol or an asthma inhaler. Parents or legal guardians have to-MUST-fill out seeming reams of paperwork-release forms, medical forms, etc just so their kid(s) can participate in extracirricular activities, sports, go on and participate in field trips, regardless if such are just up the street or across town or out of state. Parents have to-MUST-fill out paper after paper after [explitive]paper should the parent(s) consent to their kid(s) enrolling in Drivers Ed, some Phys Ed and other classes. Parent(s) have to-MUST-fill out and have on file numerous papers verifying their kid(s) have had and PASSED various physical exams and have had the MANDATORY type AND amount of vaccinations, of "shots" BEFORE their kid(s) can even THINK about entering a public school facility, BUT, when it comes to knowing about, to say NOTHING of CONSENTING TO, their underage daughters making the choice and decision to undergo a MAJOR INVASIVE surgery such as abortion, parents have ZERO LEGAL WAY OF KNOWING THEIR DAUGHTER(s) ARE UNDERGOING ABORTION AND/OR POSSIBLY GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT AND/OR USING CONTRACEPTIVES?!??!? Underage girls can obtain a judge's ruling overrinding their parents' even knowing or suspecting about their desire/choice to abort but yet parents absolutely MUST give their written legal consent for just about ANY and EVERYTHING ELSE (BUT abortion)concerning their minor child[ren]?!? Can someone tell me WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH SUCH MORALLY BACKWARD THINKING AND ACTIVITY?!? I CANNOT type here what our folks would've said, let alone done to me had I contemplated such a thing as an abortion and its lifelong consequences had I actually contemplated such a thing. My parents would've called it righteous indignation and parental obligation to punish/reprimand me for such a choice and decision WITHOUT neither their knowledge, let alone their consent. Nowadays, what they would've said and/or done to me would and could easily be construed as child abuse. Parents have to sign a release form if their minor daughter wants her ears or belly button pierced. Parents have to-MUST-sign a release form IF they consent to their minor kid(s)getting tattooed and mercifully, parents like this are VERY FEW and far between, but still, the parents MUST sign a legal release form, giving their permission for another adult to pierce, tattoo or "whatever" their underage child, BUT, AGAIN, should the SAME underage child wish, want, desire, choose ABORTION, our financially and morally BANKRUPT state has absolutely ZERO informed consent law(s) concerning abortions of ANY kind! I wish this was all just a sick practical joke, folks, but clearly and sadly, it isn't. Our underage children have to have and carry all kinds of paperwork saying that it's okay and legal for them to have, possess and carry trivial little things like aspirin or a prescription inhaler or other medication(s) and parents can and DO catch verbal and legal hell for NOT having the requisite verifiable paperwork on hand, yet underage girls can and DO get abortions WITHOUT parental knowledge, much less consent?? Again, WHAT THE {explitive] IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?!? WHERE do such young girls come up with the hefty sums of cash or credit to pay for these abortions?? I mean, if a young girl is in school and is too young to and/or does NOT work or have the money available to pay for such major invasive surgery as abortion, she HAS TO get the money SOMEWHERE, and SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR IT, RIGHT?!? And if NOT her parent(s) or family or partner, then WHO and WHY?!? Couldn't secretly paying for-subsidizing and taking a minor child across the city or state line be considered at the very least INTEREFRING WITH THE CUSTODY OF A MINOR CHILD and/or CHILD ENDAGERMENT or RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT or CHILD NEGLECT or something similar?!? I'm definitely NOT an attorney, but I'm acquainted with several different individuals that DO work in the legal/law enforcement field and most agree, that at the BARE MINIMAL, what we witness taking place @ 1400 Broadway IS, in a legal sense, INTERFERING WITH THE CUSTODY OF A MINOR CHILD *AND* a host of other [possible]charges, but because of the money involved and the legal and social ramifications, folks DON'T typically get involved in such things. Again, SAY WHAT?!?!?!?!?!??! We're being taxed to death to subsidize literally any and EVERY aspect of children and others' lives as it is, and now with this Obamacare MANDATORY taxpayer funded abortions on demand no questions asked, we're being forced to subsidize the intentional killing of pre-born babies as well?? And for WHAT?? WHY?!? Yet parents MUST fill out, keep and present ON DEMAND to all kinds of "authorities" the paperwork necessary for their underage kid(s) to have so much as generic Tylenol or an inhaler or special needs equipment YET parents have ZERO way of knowing about, much less being involved in their minor daughters' choice/decision to abort her unborn baby?!? What kind of monstrous reality have we created and unleashed on ourselves and on future generations with this kind of sick, twisted, greedy stinking thinking; with these kinds of perverted "laws"?!? The ONLY reason Rockford does NOT have informed consent laws is because the abortion industry and politicians and lawmakers are all in political and financial bed with each other and would stand to LOSE untold millions if not BILLIONS of dollars in [blood]money profits should informed consent laws be passed. It is common knowledge that Rockford and Chicago and our state in general are, next to Washington DC, the laughingstock of the country. With our intentionally high unemployment, crime and drug activity and horrendous high school drop-out rates. The excuses, reverse discrimination, unchecked immigration and entitlement mentality of this area are sickening. Is it little wonder "why" businesses are LEAVING Rockford and our state?? They're being TAXED TO DEATH and for WHAT, for WHOM and WHY?!? If YOU were a business owner or CEO, would you WANT to consider moving to such an area as ours, with its apathy, excuse making, political climate and general lack of want to do or be better?? Again, NO WAY IN HELL! Throw local pro death for MORE money politics into the already volatile mix and it's zero mystery "why" businesses are dying and/or leaving this area by the thousands. We're a SICK area, DEMAND other peoples' money and REFUSE to stand up to, let alone PUT A LEGAL STOP to the atrocities being committed right under our noses! We've created our own reality with our intentional refusal to confront, let alone do something about this abortion on demand no questions asked debate and we have to-MUST-ask ourselves: Are we BETTER off as the result of such unbridled ignorance and greed or are we as individuals and as a society WORSE OFF? Seriously, folks, do I have to-MUST-answer this question?? Rockford NEEDS a LOT of things. Informed Consent Laws would be a good, decent and moral start. Just ask your neighbors. Other parents. Even strangers. MOST AGREE. Scary, huh?? This is just for thought: Doesn't Wisconsin have Informed Consent Laws and if so, is this "why" we're witnessing the influx of WI license plates or folks from out of the area or stateline flooding into NIWC? Again, "why" isn't this being legally investigated, undercover, if needed?? No doubt, countless laws concerning minors ARE being VIOLATED here in Rockford, behind the heavily surveilled and locked doors of 1400 Broadway and someone in our law enforcement community has to be asleep at the switch to NOT know or at least be aware of just what's going on inside this so-called "womens' healthcare facility". And as a parting thought, underage or otherwise, if you're post-abortive and buy into the lie that NIWC provides some kid of-any-post-abortive counseling for its patients, please, THINK AGAIN. "X" time ago, I decided, as a post abortive woman, to call NIWC and inquire about their "counseling services" and was informed by a woman with a very cold, flat, almost rude tone that NIWC only provides post-abortive counseling for its patients only. I said that my abortion took place there "x" years ago and was now asking for help for some unresolved issues concerning being bullied and forced to choose abortion and I was very coldly and rudely told that NIWC "doesn't do that kind of counseling and doesn't refer its patients to anyone that does and for me to look elsewhere." Then the CLICK of a phone call being terminated. No good-bye or I'm ending this call or the dreaded "please hold" that's the business form of being put permanently on IGNORE. I mean literally NOTHING. The "secretary" was very cold, very rude and quickly hung up on me after I respecfully and curiously inquired about the post-abortive counseling NIWC said they offered their patients. I guess such is a feel-good afterthought; a last big middle finger to girls and women already in what are usually bad or negative prenancy situations. Just things to think about... Sad In Rockford
To Sad in Rockford, I was at
Fri, 04/30/2010 - 8:32am — A pro-lifer (not verified)To Sad in Rockford, I was at the abortion mill this morning praying and someone inside put up a sign that is pretty much saying that you "sad in Rockford" are a male pro-lifer Bill Landerholm. When I read your posts it's so easy to tell you are a woman. Bill Landerholm is a great pro-lifer but since he is not Catholic or a woman I am sure he does not have devotion to Joan of Arc as you do. I guess the sign about you and Mr. Landerholm in the mill window has about as much truth to it as the rest of the mill window signs - a big zero. It's OK though, they like making fools of themselves. A helpful word for those inside the clinic to learn might be: Paranoia / is a thought process heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of irrationality and delusion. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs concerning a perceived threat towards oneself. The word comes from the Greek. Historically, this characterization was used to describe any delusional state.
There's a sign in the mill's
Sun, 05/02/2010 - 2:56pm — Sad In Rockford (not verified)There's a sign in the mill's window that actually says something about ME *and* Bill Landerholm?
How could I've missed THIS??
A lot can and is missed when one is driving or is in a vehicle engaged in other, more pressing thoughts.
Let me see if I understand this correctly: I have neither said nor done ANYTHING that is contrary to or against common knowledge or known objective truth. I post nothing inflammatory, untrue, false, misleading, demeaning, libelous or anything of such nature and because I/we work with all walks of public life, I post here using an appropriate name and now Wayne Webster and company have seen fit to post such in their window displays? Just the thought of my username being connected to this mill is nauseating, it really is.
Exactly WHAT did * I * say that earned my name to be lumped in with Mr. Landerholm in * another* mill window sign??
Here's something for everyone, including our paranoid foul-mouthed "it's my right" neighbors:
Yesterday morning, we were preparing for another fun weekend barbecue when a friend and I heard what sounded like a young girl's cry or almost scream coming from the direction of the mill. I put down the bag of charcoal and my friend held the soda and cups and we looked at each silently saying that yes we knew what we heard. My friend was as silent and wide-eyed as I was. And momentarily scared.
Folks, yesterday morning we heard the unmistakable sound of a young woman in pain. It was real, quick and primal. It wasn't even the sound you'd hear from a neighborhood domestic situation; the kind that are all too common around here. We've heard and seen men and women get into shouting and hitting fights and we've witnessed more than one prostitute be roughed up by a pimp or boyfriend or customer.
No, what we heard yesterday morning was the unmistakable sound of a young woman in agony.
What made this kind of scary was that we were just a few hundred feet down and away through a couple side streets when we heard this brief but agonizing sound.
I thought it could've been some young woman experiencing extreme pain as the abortionist stuck instruments in her or she was experiencing excruciating cramping or labor or birth pains as she delivered a dead baby.
No, my imagination wasn't running wild. As a post-abortive survivor, I know exactly what I heard because I've either experienced such myself and/or I've heard and/or seen such with fellow abortive/post-abortive girls and women and it scared me on a primitive level. I was scared because I wanted to run to the girl and render aid and help her as best I could. I knew what I heard and I have to say, it was very difficult for me to personally enjoy the rest of the day's barbecue because of what I heard, know and remember. I could use the excuse that I was tired from work only so long but in certain social situations, what else is one supposed to do?
Yah. That would've been a real drag. Telling friends and neighbors that I was unable to enjoy the food, drink, music and fun because I heard a young woman's brief but powerful scream coming from the Broadway abortion clinic. Some folks would've probably thought I was crazy or had too much to drink or something.
I just want one and all and even our foul mouthed clinic landlord who everyone knows reads these posts to know that more than a handful of us neighbors and citizens know what they're hearing and seeing and aren't stupid, dumb or otherwise ignorant or uninformed.(At least for long anyway.)
I also want folks to know that almost every day the mill is open for business that we hear Wayne or someone from inside the building shouting or playing loud noises over the speakers he(Wayne)has outside the mill, facing the public sidewalks where folks pray, minister, talk and where neighbors and the public travel on, as they go about their daily business, whatever it may be.
If we can and DO hear these noises coming directly from and directly around NIWC property from several hundred feet down and away, what must it be like for the business and homeowners directly around the mill??
I Are these folks used to it? I mean, do they just accept such as part and parcel of being in close proximity to such a business as Rockford's baby killing clinic??
What about the homeowners and apartment renters who have children? It's warming up outside and children of sizes and ages are literally all over neighborhood streets. Folks are out walking their dogs and are out doing who knows what at literally all hours of the day and night.
Is Wayne or Karen or Sharon or Keith or any of their "friends" going to tell us and our neighbors that we're hearing things or that what we're hearing and/or seeing is none of our damn business or use nastier words to convey such??
I don't clamin to be a property expert or anything, but I'd like to think that working and/or owning a home or other property in such close proximity to NIWC or any abortion mill, really, would be either bad for one's business image or would somehow take away, in small ways or amounts, property value(?)
An automotive repair garage is next to NIWC and directly north of NIWC is what-a neighborhood mini mart whose main profits come from the sales of cigarettes and alcohol. The taco truck doesn't really count because it's only in the side parking lot during the warmer months.
Being in such close range of Rockford's abortion mill has to impact these business owners and workers and not in good or positive ways.
We'd like to know, do these business owners just ignore the sights and sounds that come from their 1400 Broadway neighbor unless it directly affects them and/or their establishment?
Some business owners and a handful of professionals have freely shared with us how having an abortion clinic and its owner so openly, shamelessly put up signs attacking others and being so openly verbally vicious isn't just a visual or psychological drag for folks in this neighborhood, but that such as what Wayne and other NIWC staff post in the windows of their business is an emabrassment, blight, drag and shame to them, to reputable medical professionals and to EVERYONE OF GOOD WILL AND COMMON SENSE in this city, state and country!
Again, folks, I'd like to know exactly what did *I* say that's earned my username being posted in Waynes's windows??
Is the truth, to Wayne Webster and company, so ugly and offensive that he feels compelled to post such??
It's true-the squeaky wheel always gets greased...or gets pepper sprayed or batoned or Tasered or whatever, but still...
I'd like to know what did I say that's so different-ANY DIFFERENT-than ANYTHING that ANYONE ELSE has posted?
WHAT did *I* say here on prolifecorner.com that's merited having my username AND another pro-lifer's name and personal information posted in Wayne's windows?
If Wayne Webster posts peoples' REAL personal ID and/or personal information, aren't there laws against doing such, even if doing so is on private property, such as the windows of NIWC?
Telling me and others that Wayne has the legal right to post personal information about those he percieves as his enemies would, I think, be like debating whether or not it's right or legal for an identity thief to have and review your personal information in the privacy of wherever they're at.
I just want it to be known that I/we haven't posted ANYTHING that ISN'T either common knowledge and/or readily available public knowledge, ie FOIA, records, etc.
It also pays to be genuinely respectful AND nice to ALL kinds and levels of law enforcement authorities.
It pays to be aware of one's surroundings.
I just want to know what did I/we say that's earned me a place among Wayne's wacky window displays.
Really, Wayne, you should've gone into advertising or sign making or some kind of marketing occupation, because by and large, these occupations are a lot more respectable than being publicly and internet known as a verbally abrasive, seemingly paranoid foul-mouthed promoter of death for babies profits.
As neighbors, as contributing taxpayers and as other reasonably intelligent folks, we've tried to see things from Wayne's point of view...
But when he chooses to act the ways he does and does so loudly and publicly, it's hard for us to respect him and give him the benefit of the doubt.
I/we don't begrudge Wayne his fancy luxury vehicles or his beautiful canine companions or even his wacky designer sunglasses or anything else or any creature comforts that he and/or his companion or family has. I mean, like it or not, he's earned these things, right?
We have to-must-part ways with Wayne and friends here simply and precisely because less of what he's chosen to do for a living and more to do with his intentional, brazen public outbursts and what he and his staff have chosen to say and do to others.
I'm beginning to get a clearer and uglier picture of what our neighborhood baby killing center is like.
I now feel like we're dangerously near a monster whose reached out and with a long nasty smelly bloody tentacle managed to touch *me* and then show the world its done so.
And all because I spoke the bitter bruised ugly truth.
No wonder I'm Sad In Rockford
I can't thank you people
Fri, 04/30/2010 - 9:27am — Not ready to share name (not verified)I can't thank you people enough for opening up about your abortions.
I had an abortion in Rockford also. I have hidden it for years but I can't any more.
I believe God has forgiven me and I want to help keep others from making the same mistake I did.
When I was in the clinic it was depressing beyond words. Two other women were crying. The men that were in there looked pathetic. The abortionist tried to be all cheerful but it was so fake I wanted to throw-up.
As my baby died I knew full well I was killing my baby may God forgive me.
My God what an evil place.
Fri, 04/30/2010 - 9:28am — Jenney (not verified)My God what an evil place.
What I am reading on this
Fri, 04/30/2010 - 9:42am — Pax (not verified)What I am reading on this website is the love of Jesus Christ. Thank you to you women for sharing what's in your heart.
The truth needs to be told about what NIWC is doing to so many people. The evil and pain that place has caused is beyond our ablility to understand.
Your faith and love in sharing your life with us is a gift of truth and life.
My and my families prayers are with you. You are the salt of the earth and the light of the world.
Pax
I wonder what the clinic
Fri, 04/30/2010 - 11:27am — Kathy G (not verified)I wonder what the clinic nurse thinks when she sees a baby on the ultrasound?
She knows beyond doubt that it's a person with a beating heart - does she care when the person is killed?
I too wonder what the
Sun, 05/02/2010 - 1:13pm — Anonymous (not verified)I too wonder what the nurse(s) think when they see babies on the ultrasound monitor? Of course, because of both basic visual knowledge, combined with two plus years medical or on-the-job-training, she/he knows, beyond a shadow of ANY doubt that what they are seeing IS a real, live, moving, thinking and feeling human baby, that by the time such a nurse sees such a baby that said baby is in absolute mortal danger. In other words, YES, the clinic nurse KNOWS that she/he is seeing a baby. BUT... Do they care? IF they GENUINELY cared, I don't believe they'd be working in a facility such as NIWC. I'd be interested in knowing how abortion clinic workers-everyone from lowly clinic escorts and janitors to nurses to the abortionists themselves go home at the end of the work day and attempt to live "normal" lives. I mean, how do they do it? Do they rest and sleep easily or peacefully? When they're brushing their teeth, grooming, putting on make-up or whatever, how do they really feel when they see their reflection in the bathroom mirror? What's unsettling, creepy and scary even is if you don't know these abortion workers by sight or personally, you can be standing by them at the food court at the mall or in line at any shopping store or gas station. You or your children or friends could be sitting next to them in, of all places, at church or a social function or any public gathering and you'd never know it. Your children could sit next to and even play with their children in, say, school or any establishment that caters specifically to children and their families. Creepy, huh? Imagine taking that casion cruis you've been saving for and ending up at the blackjack table with one of these mill owrkers? Or seeing the abortionist(s)sitting next to you at your favorite slot machine section? Creeped out yet? How can these folks have ANY kind of social life? I mean, just knowing that well over half of Americans polled consider themselves pro-life and object to abortion except in extremely rare cases? At least, that's what I've read in various liberal and conservative news sources. So, it does beg the question........ How can abortion nurses and doctors have any kind of "normal" family and social lives, and how do they REALLY feel, knowing what medically and intellectually, they know? I can see "why" we've heard (and seen) mill employees covering their faces with their hands, hair, briefcases or paperwork. Because on a real base, gut and heart level, these people KNOW exactly what they are choosing to do-for a living and what, medically, they are doing to countless tiny voiceless, defenseless and innocent babies. Kathy G: I believe the mill nurese(s) know exactly what they're seeing. I also believe that they could not care less. Any less. As long as the financially decent paychecks continue rolling in, in the form of abortion on demand no questions asked money, the mill nurse(s) will continue hardening their resolve, hearts and souls for another day and paycheck of what is, in the most basic sense, blood money. If the nurse(s) had any moral or even medical objections to what she or he was doing for a living, I believe they would've chosen another career or at least a different job other than determining the age, size(and yes, sex)of babies scheduled for execution. And really, there is no other medical way or terminology around what I've just described. No one can judge in any way, shape or form what is truly in the nurse's heart as she or he sees visual evidence on the computer screen that what they're seeing. I just don't think they care. It's either "just a job" for them or they've swallowed so much pro-choice rhetoric over enough years that they're, to use a Communist term, "re-educated" and genuinely believe the pro-choice, pro-abortion propaganda they've been exposed to. I think another term that's appropriate in such an environment would be "brainwashing". The nurses and staff have been brainwashed to believe that what they're doing is for the "good" of girls, women, their partners, families, and to and for the so-called "greater good of society." They know exactly both what they are seeing AND what they are doing. They do it good. They do it professionally. And they just don't care. Or they'd choose another area of their expertise that doesn't have so many or so much negative attachments. I cannot imagine what it's like to have a job or career where knowing by either basic human knowledge or by chosen schooling and technical training where part of one's job is literally sizing up pre-born babies to help the abortionist know better how to proceed in the termination-the execution-of babies. That truly has to suck and hurt on some deep dark hidden level somewhere in the nurse(s) that perform ultrasounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
Fri, 04/30/2010 - 7:05pm — Julie (not verified)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfjwJBfPu6s&feature=player_embedded#! If you watch this video you will learn the what is behind abortion. We have seen it here at the Rockford mill in many ways.
Editor's Note: We've seen the video-it's excellent! Thanks for sharing the link.
The abortion mill slumlord is
Fri, 04/30/2010 - 7:25pm — Friend of a NIWC victim (not verified)The abortion mill slumlord is showing his infinite lack of wisdom again with the signs in the blood stained windows of his death camp.
I was told he is claiming Bill Landerholm is responsible for the posts on this web-site. I know Bill and when Bill has something to say he says it to the persons face. I guess the mill slumlord thinks putting Bills phone number in his death center window is going to intimidate him. While it is creepy to know the creepy man who is personally responsible for the deaths of all those babies looks you up in the phone book apparently he isn't smart enough to comprehend anyone else in the entire world could look Bills phone number up in the phone book also.
At least we know were not dealing with an intellectual giant here
After reading what is written
Sat, 05/01/2010 - 7:16am — Becca (not verified)After reading what is written on this site I can't help but think about the thousands, the tens of thousands of women the Rockford abortion clinic has harmed. So many babies lives snuffed out, so many women injured for life. It's makes a person sick to think about the pain and suffering they have caused.
ONE DAY THESE WORDS WILL BE
Sat, 05/01/2010 - 9:20am — Mike (not verified)ONE DAY THESE WORDS WILL BE HEARD BY THOSE WHO HAVE KILLED THE UNBORN
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
—Matthew 25:31-46
I agree with this article.
Sat, 05/01/2010 - 10:32am — Marie from Loves Park (not verified)I agree with this article. Ultra sounds are the key. No one not even the most heartless abortion supporter can deny that a child in the womb is a person when they see an ultra-sound. The other key to ending abortion are you brave women and men coming forward and telling the world how abortion has hurt you. I'm sure it's not easy but God will bless you for it. And I thank you. By the way the babies in the womb who you will help save thank you also.
When I saw my ultra-sound I
Sat, 05/01/2010 - 11:09am — Patricia (not verified)When I saw my ultra-sound I was amazed at how developed my daughter was.
No way on earth a mother could ever abort her child if she saw her ultra-sound. I gusee that's why they don't like to show them in abortion clinics.
Can't we get a state law that forces them to show it? It's only common sense and decency.
I agree with Sad in Rockford
Sat, 05/01/2010 - 1:58pm — 11th ward resident (not verified)I agree with Sad in Rockford 100%
You hit the nail on the head.
There is a state in this
Sat, 05/01/2010 - 8:09pm — MaryAnonymous (not verified)There is a state in this United States of America that just voted into law that all girls wishing to get an abortion must be able to see the ultrasound. How about starting a movement in Illinois to enact that same law, along with the informed consent and waiting period law? The majority of the cars coming into the abortion mill are from Wisconsin...where there IS a waiting period. Something to pray for and act upon! We should all contact our representative and congressman.
Editor: An excellent idea!
You know whats sad beyond
Sun, 05/02/2010 - 2:29pm — Kat (not verified)You know whats sad beyond belief? Some people would vote against an ultra-sound law because they don't care about children killed by abortion.
These are the same people who scream blood murder (no pun intented)when they see pro-lifers hold signs of what happens to a baby in an abortion.
They HATE the truth with a passion.
I was praying at the mill once and a man had a picture of a baby killed by abortion and even the guy who plows the clinic parking-lot couldn't stand seeing the picture of what they do to babies in that demonic place.
They will fight very hard to keep mothers from seeing ultra-sounds because they know that if a mother see her baby in the womb she will choose life.
And they also know that when anyone see an ultra-sound they also see those in the abortion business for who they are--------the murderers of human beings.
If even the guy that plows
Sun, 05/02/2010 - 5:51pm — Sad In Rockford (not verified)If even the guy that plows the mill parking lot during winter months is offended or apalled by seeing pictures of what abortion does to babies, perhaps he should re-evaluate his priorities and look elsewhere for work.
Even in tough government-created economic times as what we're facing, someone with a valid license and insurance can find work plowing/removing snow and other debris elsewhere other than the abortion mill. If the guy that plows the mill lot has his own truck and equipment, he has zero excuse(s)for not looking elsewhere for income.
The fact that even an outside service worker was/is offended by seeing pictures of what surgical abortion REALLY does, and to REAL babies should've be a wake-up call to this guy.
Point blank, he DIDN'T "have to" plow the mill's parking lot. He obviously CHOSE to. Whether he voulnteered or Wayne or one of their "friends" asked him to or he found the job on a site like craigslist is irrelevant.
The fact was/is that he CHOSE to do what he does for a living for folks who chose to do what they do for a living-kill tiny pre-born babies for huge sums of money..and in an indirect way, this plow guy wanted a cut of that [blood]money.
Folks, no one, myself included, is judging, bashing or disrespecting this guy's want, desire or even need(he may have a family to support)to clear the snow on Wayne's property.
What we ARE calling attention to was/is if the guy that plows their parking lot was or is so offended just by seeing pictures of what abortion does to babies in passing, maybe he should duck into the clinic proper sometime and really get a good look at what his employer(s)do that makes their jobs possible.
If he has any shred of common sense, to say nothing of morals or decency, he'd run off NIWC property and down Broadway so fast you'd see sparks under his feet, just like what you see at night when part of the plow scrapes along the street.
This is as schizophrenic as politicians who camapign on behalf of so-called "family values" and "morality" and then are caught or exposed in extra-marital affairs, drug use, abusing their partner(s), neglecting their children or having children with another woman while still married. I don't need to name names or point out specific Parties, because such egregious, crappy and grossly shameful and hipocritical behavior cuts across ALL party/boundry lines. PERIOD.
This is as schizophrenic as my abuser telling me QUOTE "I don't give a [explitive]about it. That's NOT *my* problem. Don't even think or TRY to retaliate against me."
This was told to me in a very cold threatening tone and I share it virtually VERBATIM, as in EXACT WORD FOR WORD.
I refuse to believe or "buy into" the notion that guy offended by seeing pictures of aborted babies just "could not" find alternative snow plowing contracts; that he just couldn't find work elsewhere other than Wayne Webster.
It's almost as if he wanted to revel in his alleged "offense" of seeing pictures of what his boss makes money landlording to, but not doing anything about it; in the way of seeking apporpriate work elsewhere.
Rather like a slumlord complaining about having to repair a leaky faucet in a roach-infested apartment or house that's close to having its roof cave in.
Such want and demand the $$$ money $$$ but demand such for little to no personal expenditure of effort or involvement.
To the guy that chooses to plow/maintain the parking lot located @ 1400 Broadway, please, for the sake of your sanity and emotional health, if you're so "offended" by the pictures of aborted babies that are commonly displayed @ your chosen work site, please take my/our humble suggestion and look elsewhere for work.
Please don't choose to work for someone who owns an abortion clinic and then complain to another person publicly about what your boss derives his profits from.
You knew almost from the beginning what takes place @ 1400 Broadway and STILL, you CHOSE to work for them??
And then you CHOSE to be so openly "offended" as to catch and garner the attention of another person present??
Please don't tell us that you can't find work plowing businesses elsewhere.
Working for Wayne was/is a conscious and free will choice and decision; one that you freely chose and one that you freely made. No one conned, connived or cheated you. No one lied, forced or "made" you work for Wayne Webster.
Either you CHOOSE to "buy into" the hateful, publicly shameful, bombastic, poisonous rhetoric witnessed and known @ 1400 Broadway, and you silently work for Wayne and company, and you keep such feelings of "offense" to yourself concerning abortion and what it clearly does to babies.. or you find work ELSEWHERE. It's that simple, really!
This makes about as much sense as me choosing to work in an adult bookstore and then claiming or publicly saying how "offended" I [allegedly] was by my chosen work environment.
I'm sorry if anymone disagrees, but abortion is one of those ugly jobs and professions that comes with negative strings attached whether one likes it or not, or care to admit this or not.
If seeing pictures of what abortion does to babies, clearly, this plowing Wayne's parking lot guy has no business working for a businessman that is a clear and known embarassment to the majority of his fellow business owners.
This isn't me talking nonsense or spouting "anti-choice" "hate speech".
It's stone-cold hard known FACT.
Plow guy sounds like he wanted to shift his discomfort to the peaceful law-abiding pro-life folks outside. That's called blameshifitng and projecting. Childish and long-term proven ineffective in dealing with on-going problems.
Maybe we should pray for folks like this plow guy to take a moral stand AGAINST the atrocities taking place just beyond where he works.
As a nationally known pro-life speaker said in one of his books a few years ago "Real men don't stand around with their hands in their pockets while innocent children are being slaughtered. Especially for convenience and money."
This nationally known author also said something to the effect of "Any man who does wasn't much of a man to begin with."
Perhaps the erstwhile plow guy could take to heed both my words and the words of others...
Also, can someone explain to me exactly or even when or whereabouts is this whole abortion thing "supposed" to positively help girls and women and society?
When can we as individuals and as a society hope or expect to begin seeing the positive results of so much uncheck bloodshed...in the names of so-called "choice", "equality", and "personal freedom"?
These are things we should all be thinking and talking about...
Sad In Rockford
http://www.vancouversun.com/n
Sun, 05/02/2010 - 7:02pm — Martha M (not verified)http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Woman%20abortions%20report%20more%20dep...
This story is from a non-prolife and non religious newspaper.
Based on what women who have had abortions in Rockford have said in this comment section it looks like not only does the Rockford mill hide the ultra-sound pictures from women it seems they are silent about what happens to women after an abortion also.
Depression and drug abuse seems to be very common for women after an abortion and I'll bet the staff of the Rockford mill forgets to warn mothers of this.
How can those people inside the mill ever look at themselves in a mirror. They must be dead inside to do this to women and children.
Martha and others: Thank you
Sun, 05/02/2010 - 11:12pm — Sad In Rockford (not verified)Martha and others: Thank you for sharing this vancouversun.com article. You are correct to state that this media source is both non-pro-life AND non-religious. In other words, the Vancouver Sun has little, if any, vested interest in being biased. Liberal, yes, but informative and both surprising and refreshing to read this article and its post-abortive statistics. Of course, abortion mills-NIWC included-intentionally, as in deliberately on purpose, omit these inconvenient truths. Their blood money and greed-soaked world would crack like an egg and most of their patients/customers would choose life for their tiny pre-born babies instead of paying a stranger an exhorminent amount of what is usually hard-to-come-by money to terminate, no, to INTENTIONALLY KILL, their pre-born babies...and then learn to somehow live with many years and often lifetimes of regret for the act of choosing to end their baby's life no matter the circumstances. "How can those people inside the mill ever look at themselves in a mirror? They must be dead inside to do this to women and children." To get further, if chilling and unsettling, clarification on wondering how folks that choose to work in abortion mills can "ever look at themselves in a mirror", please refer to www.clinicquotes.com Neither I nor ANYONE, be it here @ prolifecorner.com, rockfordprolife.com or ANY pro-life web site or person or organization can be accused of verbalizing the words quoted on this site. It will amaze, shock and even nauseate you to read the words of clinic workers on clinicquotes.com. It's a compiliation of quotes taken DIRECTLY from everyone-from the lowliest volunteer unpaid "escorts", that freely volunteer their personal time and effort to escort girls and women and their unborn babies into the abortion mills and to their babies' deaths..to receptionists, secretaries, patholigists, med school trainees, nurses and the baby killing doctors themselves. Yes, even Rockford's Dr. Dennis Christensen is featured in clinicquotes.com. I won't say or "quote" what he's said, except to use intelligence, discretion and basic common sense when making up your mind about this man's exact words and feelings concerning working in his chosen field of expertise. How do they do what they [choose]to do to women and children? Easy. They reduce women to the lowest common denominator emotionally and view her nothing more than a piece of meat; something to be opened up and cleaned out. How can they do this to tiny voiceless defenseless pre-born human babies? Again, easy. They reduce babies to a level even lower than non-existant. Hence the terms "products of conception", "fetal material", "pregnancy matter", et cetera. Tiny pre-born babies become someTHING LESS THAN even terms like "fetus", "embryo" and "zygote". These tiny pre-born babies are relegated to the status of biohazard trash...to be swept out, away and discarded...and not always properly, medically or humanely. I've heard from certain individuals that I didn't suspect of being remotely pro-life say and share with me and others that it was/is their belief that that euthanized, "put down" or "put to sleep" animals and their carcasses are treated in a more humane and dignified way than aborted baby humans. To hear this coming from the mouth of someone I'd long believed to be either pro-choice or mostly indifferent about such matters, to say the least, was surprising if not shocking. As a rape/abortion survivor, I do NOT doubt, in the least, that animals that are "put to sleep" receive better or more humane post-death treatment than aborted babies; whether such babies are surgically, chemically or RU486 pill aborted. Please, if you can, read ALL of clinicquotes.com web site. In their own words, this site clearly and chillingly explains "why" most mill workers and abortionists do as they choose to. "Choice" seems to be a word that the folks quoted seem to like to throw around quite a bit. If this [abortion]debate is truly, as they say, about girls' and womens' Constitutionally-given and guaranteed right and ability, "why" then do 99.999% of abortion clinic staff employees give their patients/clients so few alternatives-choices...OTHER THAN costly abortion(s)on demand? I mean, if this debate is genuinely, as pro-choice folks claim, "all about choice" and "personal freedom", WHY ISN'T such "choice" and "freedom" and ALTERNATIVES to abortion(s)given? Because abortion is all about power and control and money. Lots of money. Huge money. Blood money profits that'd make ANY self-respecting Mafia mobster blush. Again, Martha M, this ISN'T me or any other "anti choice bigot" ranting and raving. These are words DIRECTLY from those that either worked in and permanently left the abortion field and/or presently still working in the abortion field and doing so anonymously. Please, one and all and even our foul-mouthed publicly shameless neighbors and lurkers, go to www.clinicquotes.com and read how and why these folks do what they choose to do. After reading the quotes contained in this site, I cannot emphasize what I've shared enough. Respectfully, Sad In Rockford
Editor: Thanks for the thoughts and the link.
I'm sorry I should have been
Mon, 05/03/2010 - 7:59am — Kat (not verified)I'm sorry I should have been more clear. I'm sure it was the clinic owner who was plowing the parking lot that I saw a couple of years ago get all upset when a guy with a beard had two signs of aborted babies.
I just don't even want to mention the clinic owners name, he's not worth it. But it was a sight to see after he was done plowing the guy with the aborted baby pictures kept showing it to the owner and he was getting all up set and even shaking.
He couldn't stand to see the truth that he is the landlord for a deathcamp and all the money he makes it tainted with the blood of babies. He must hear the cries of thousands of murdered babies in his dreams, if he doesn't hear them know he will hear them for all eternity.
It really opened my eyes that day to see even someone who is for abortion clearly know he is for murdering babies.
An ultra-sound teaches that
Mon, 05/03/2010 - 9:25am — RHS Nurse (not verified)An ultra-sound teaches that every human life in the womb is a person. If it is also true that it is affirmed by religion, it does not for that reason cease to be a strictly scientific truth, to be transformed into a religious opinion.
He who denies that human life begins with conception does not need to contend with religion, but science. To deny this certainty of biology is not to express a lack of faith, but a lack of basic knowledge of human genetics, something that is even known by the general public.
Hey Kat, Your right about the
Mon, 05/03/2010 - 11:09am — Kathy G (not verified)Hey Kat, Your right about the mill owner. I think he does all the stupid things he does so people will talk about him. That's one of the services he provides the abortionist. He acts like a jerk (let's face it no one could really be that stupid) to direct attention away from the man who kills the babies with his own hands. All the signs in the windows just makes him look like a raving lunatic an bigot but they do the job. People focus on the signs an the guy who put's them up while the abortionist shovels in the cash. Sure the fool who puts up the signs is laughed at and considered the lowest form of prostitute (for selling his soul) by everyone in town for what he does but when is the last time you heard the abortionist's name in the news? KG
Most people not realize how
Mon, 05/03/2010 - 4:55pm — Nikki (not verified)Most people not realize how abortions are done? Suction tubes, forceps, curettes (sharp knives), the child is grabbed kicking, squirming, fighting for her life as the abortionist kills the child.
Not only should ultra-sounds be shown but this should also. Then no mother (except a few with no consecience)would ever have an abortion.
Women have abortions because they are lied to and betrayed by society and places like the Northern Illinois Women's Center who don't show them the truth of the baby inside them or what they do to that baby in an abortion.
Murderers always try to hide the crime.
Kathy, I think you make some
Mon, 05/03/2010 - 5:31pm — James (not verified)Kathy, I think you make some good points but I think something else is going on. I'll bet the abortionist is as embarrassed as hell by what is displayed at the Rockford mill. Most, but not all, abortionists still have a pretense that they are real doctors.
If you have seen the videos and pictures of what has been put in the windows of the mill it makes a joke out of the Northern Illinois Women's Center, makes everyone who works there look like a racist bigot who hates God and murders babies for money.
I'll bet the abortionist is either tied into a lease agreement at Broadway or no one in the city will rent him a dog kennel after seeing what kind of bigotry he is associated with.
I wouldn't be surprised if the landlord knows he has so embarrassed the abortionist by the stupidity and vileness he displays he has backed the abortionist into a corner. And the only dark, dingy corner left in the city that will accept this kind of aberration is at 1400 Broadway.
Kathy and James, I don't know
Tue, 05/04/2010 - 8:03am — Drew (not verified)Kathy and James, I don't know which of you is right, but one thing I think we all know for sure and certain that can be said about those at NIWC: because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life (the pro-lifers); but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury (the pro-aborts). There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil. Romans 2:5-11 In the end we will all face God. I would not want to face Him unrepentant with the blood of thousands of babies on my hands and soul.
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